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Mar 31, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Carolina
Guild: [OS]
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You do realize that the +5 arm does nothing... right?
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Mar 31, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11
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There is no spoon.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Netherlands
Profession: Mo/
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Tweecers, tell me what +5 Energy adds to a 55Hp build, then start saying I'm wrong.
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Mar 31, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: Mo/Me
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+5 energy does nothing when you have balths spirit and bonneties on..
Also any sword with +19% or 20% enchant works I personally put it on a FDS. |
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Mar 31, 2006, 06:00 PM // 18:00
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dfw Texas
Guild: [Cry] Cries of Frustration.
Profession: Mo/
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I just like the way it looks and the no Rq part, not like I'm planning on doing damage with it. |
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Mar 31, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Carolina
Guild: [OS]
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 Thats actually a pretty good sword if you use a Riposte 55 build... since you get the 5% chance along with it being a sword. |
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Mar 31, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
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I use a purple brute sword with a 19% enchant and nothing else, because it looks cool
it used to be 14%, i;m thinking i might have been better with a different sword putting the 19% on. my mesmer has various percentages she uses for IW and they get swapped around with my monk and ele for 55 hp-ing. i use that crystalline long sword and an 18% flamberge, and I may have a FDS with something on somewhere. i also am thinking about putting the spare 19% axe mod on a fiery flame spitter 
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Mar 31, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: Mo/
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First of all, not all farmers use Mo/W, which imo is not the best 55 monk.
Imo the best 55 monk is Mo/Me. Because while bonetti's blocks, it doesnt stop from being interuppted by spells or other things.. and its just 75% to melee... I mean if you are talking about easy farming, then sure go ahead and bash hod, what do you farm Hydras? In upper level farming, you need not your average spells to farm correctly, much diff strategy is incurred other then your basic PS+HS. At any given time farming, I incure PS+ HS+10 mana stance + 5-10 mana spell constantly. meaning your 20 mana you use to farm hydras, I use 35-40 maybe even more dependin on the situation. so yes that +5 mana that will be able to let me not have to save for a ps, when I could be attacking WILL save me time, + net me more in the long run speed wise. At upper level farming, if you take on more of lets say 3-5 you have a high risk of failure at 55 hp, you must be constantly using different spells, stances etc.etc to compete with the different higher lvl monsters you are going to face. I mean, do you just farm creatures that hit you physically? If so you are narrowminded. Bonetti's really isnt going to do anything if they are casting spells on you, bonetti's wont help you for example..... IDS farming. With just Balth Spirit on you, and not your average "insert augory rock creature here name" skill setup, you actually use mana , and have to manage it wisely or else you will be waiting for that 10th mana to pop up just as PS dies. My words speak of higher lvl, and not just... what hydra or troll farming? Bash a hod sword for 55'ing if your into something that can be done while I am sleeping using just a -55 focus. HoD sword has uses, it is just if you are biased like that, because you bought a FFS for like 50 gold, do not hate, and look beyond your casual farming. How will things change if random kids keep hating on a good weapon that was removed from the game with reason* and flame on me because I dont do hydra runs like they do with their uber Mo/W. Why more mana? In a nutshell higher lvl monsters require more strategy/spells, meaning MORE mana cost, more spells to be cast, more chance for interupption, higher difficulty, better drops. Sorry if I actually go outside of the box, terrrrrrribly sorry :\ Last edited by Tweecers; Mar 31, 2006 at 11:41 PM // 23:41.. |
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Apr 01, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Carolina
Guild: [OS]
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1) PS and HB
2) Bonetti's blocks projectile and melee, but only gives energy on melee misses 3) -50 cesta, not -55 Umm, also, no one said Mo/W was the superior farmer... just the Furious is the only real mod worth getting incase you DO end up using Mo/W since you'll charge Bonetti's faster. |
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Apr 01, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: /B/Chan
Guild: Looking for one
Profession: W/
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Apr 01, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21
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Dun dun dun
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Reddit Guild
Profession: R/
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No flaming please. Thank you
 My opinion on the HoD and the FFS... HoD gives a free +5 energy with no requirement. FFS gives a 10% or 15% in some cases skill recharge. Now for a 55 monk, energy is abundant, at least for me, when it comes to farming. Therefore, the +5 energy is meaningless for a 55 Monk. So the winner for farming with a 55 monk in my opinion is the FFS, since the HoD gives no apparent, Darn I can't figure out the word
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Apr 01, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Third Rock
Guild: Ultimate Genesis
Profession: Mo/
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Now I know why these post are so important. Think of the money I could have saved by not buying an HOD. I take it that the FDS is the better sword for the U.W. than taking the HOD. If so it's back to farming (Low Level) to afford one of those. And yes, I am a rookie 55. But ya gotta start somewhere...
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Apr 01, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Yes once in a while a recharge on spellbreaker or soj would be nice, but is sure as hell 100% not required or at least that much more helpful towards a build. You shouldnt be basing your farming around 10%. I have tried the ffs... the results can hardly be seen, 10% is just too low... natural energy management? maybe for lower lvl farming, higher lvl farming requires more -1 cumulative energy required enchantments thats all. All in all, I have about 1 natural energy reg on a given run, so if you feel like waiting like forever for 1 mana to regenerate... alright..... I dont rely on natural reg, it is not constant enough for me. Again, your comments are very low lvl farming skewed, need to open your mind.. you actually quoted me saying 75% blocking melee, you added missles? meaning arrows? What about the other 50% attacks in the game? or something that just about EVERY creature uses what could it be? oh wait, a spell! By farming creatures that dont mindlessly whack you forever, you CANNOT rely on bonettis, what will it do? it will waste 8 adrenaline and not give you any mana when you git hit with a spell... meaning if they dont physically hit you, does b. spirit work either? NOPE. I figure you will have +2 natural energy reg at this point ( mending/spirit) that will get you killed in higher lvl farming areas like... guarenteed. For newer farmers who do ONLY physical farming, which again is narrow minded.. (trolls/hydras*/griffons) mana actually does matter in some builds that are skewed to beat HIGHER and harder farms. that is why +5 mana in my opinion beats out a 1 in 10 chance to really kick on a spell that could actualy net you extra time/speed ( elites) I do not see your argument saying hod sword sucks when your saying a fast casted soj will happen every time basically is your pro. 1 in 10... that is very very low odds for me. +5 mana constantly is much better. Am i the only one that doesnt do these newbie farms? I mean.. eh w/e *Mantra of Resolve* anyone? If you farm things that do not disrupt you, that is to me considered low, or extremley easy. If you farm things that can, or maelstrom you, what is bonettis gonna do when you get interrupted on a ps for example? your dead... its simple Example on a disrupting chop or blow thing *, its a physical attack, so even if you say, well bonetti's can block this. it still has a 1 in 4 chance to own your skill... 25% of failure is MUCH MUCH MUCH more potent then 10% of failure. 1 in 4 means even the best farmer will fail his spells a good ass portion of the time. bonettis will not make you completely safe, and in the odds of probability, you have just as much a chance of blocking, then having lets say.. 4 hits hit in a row, including the disrupt you were trying to block. it just isnt good enough for me... it will block attacks, but 25% will come through * physical disruption is what im talking about* MoR will block anything based on mana removal, meaning more mana = you can cast " i boned ur mom last night" as much as you want, it aint gonna get disrupted, meaning you wont fail, meanign your monster will die, = loot anyone? 25% chance to get owned while using a so called "proection spell" when i say protection i mean for casting a spell towards physically disrupting monsters, is just tooooooo way to high for me. or HB for example.. if you are doing a decent size mod, your dead.... My loot is bettter, my challenge is harder, but you can choose to farm whatever you want. again, if you want to keep talking to me about troll farming which is what you basically are telling me you do, please talk to someone else, or try different farming locations pleaseeeeee Edit* I saw you said the UW was profitable? with ectos at ~ 5-6k now, and u finding on average 1 per run, which means you have to give the ecto to your partner, 50% to get 1 ecto every lets say... 30-45 minutes? or if you say.. I dont need a partner! and spend a hour+ trying to get 1 ecto, well, if you think 5-6k an hour is good for farming... I say you go farm elonas minotaurs for gold, you can do that easier, solo and make more money then farming the stupid UW for ectos. Last edited by Tweecers; Apr 01, 2006 at 01:12 AM // 01:12.. |
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Apr 01, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Carolina
Guild: [OS]
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You're making the most assanine "argument" ever... its not even worth arguing. Stating that no one else uses Essence Bond... when, in fact, almost every 55 EVER uses it, just emphasizes how little you understand what people are saying. If you're that annoyed/worried about waiting for your energy to regen, waste a slot and throw in Blessed Signet. Tadaa, extra energy every, what is it, 5 seconds? No matter what you say, you're making an assanine argument that is based on nothing. The only time you should EVER be having any amount of trouble with energy, especially if you use Essence Bond and Balth's Spirit like you say, is when you're stuck going 1 on 1 against a monster...
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Apr 01, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29
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Dun dun dun
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Reddit Guild
Profession: R/
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108130
I hope that can make some sense to this thread. Good post Megla. |
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Apr 01, 2006, 06:35 AM // 06:35
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
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Foolish not to use essence bond..
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Apr 01, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Who ever said I used essence bond? Please quote me saying that? Megla you retard QUOTE where I said I used essence bond, your acting like a wrote a essay just on that skill. I said i use other -1 cum enchantments you dumb 9 year old. then you go on to flame ME for something I didnt even say? Werd shows ur intelligence. You obviously still no NOTHING about 55'ing if you are that narrowminded Blessed Signet? As if my skillbar is actually worthy of that skill, you have no idea how tight skillbars are farming. I cant believe you would throw words into my mouth, I guess you think that ps + hb will work for any monster and you dont need any other skills! why do the low lvl farmers do this to me >< But then again you are simply refering to me as if I farm trolls or something, which is what I can almost 100% guarentee you do. How about you leave the hard farming to the smarter people, and go kill some hydras for me. To newbie players trying to bash me and know nothing of the farming I am doing, there is a reason you dont, because you cant understand the basis that a 55 monk actually uses skills other then ps + hb. SO go back to augory and leave me alone. Last edited by Tweecers; Apr 01, 2006 at 06:39 PM // 18:39.. |
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May 28, 2006, 12:13 PM // 12:13
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I got a +5 energy PlaguaBorn Sword ^^
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May 28, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station
Guild: (SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi
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actually the weapon u really want is a smite rod. skip the sword and FFS. cause u can get a collectors 20/20 smite rod. and still be able to do max damage with it alone. 20% enchant mods are ok but way over rated. with the 20% chance to recharge ur smite skills is far better. my 3 cents worth. and if u want one pm in game ill get u one at cost. IGN Tarn Vedre. u will change ur mind when using it.
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